Last week I was contacted by Paul Barrow who is the Webmaster and Registrar of the International MG Y Type Register. This group is the keeper and source of all of the information that you would ever want or need to know about the MG Y cars. Paul was responding to two posts that I have made on this website – one on November 8, 2011 and the other on September 18, 2012.
Paul correctly pointed out that there never actually was an MG YA as designated by the manufacturer, only an MG Y, an MG Y/T and an MG YB, the suffix “A” being appended by people after the introduction of the subsequent model which was designated by the factory as the MG YB. This retroactive naming of cars has happened frequently in the car industry, such as the MG TA, the Jaguar Mk. I, the Jaguar XKE Series 1, and the Sunbeam Tiger Mk. I. I think that because the use of the designation MG YA has so crept into the lexicon of MG cars and many automotive publications, I that will let this transgression stand so that the casual car buff will not be confused, while those that know the history of the MG Y cars will know the story behind this “renaming” of the early MG Y cars. It is interesting to note that even the owner of the MG Y sedan featured in my September 18, 2012 post referred to his car as a “1950 MG YA Saloon”.
A 1950 MG Y Saloon
The other issue that Paul pointed out was that the production figures that I had quoted were slightly in error. Paul wrote: “I just need to correct your production figures though please. Yes, traditional thought has it that it was thought that the 7,035 Y chassis (as opposed to the 1,301 YB chassis) were split 6,158 Y and 877 YT, but extensive research by the International MG Y Type Register over the last 10 years has found that actually there were at least 904 YTs made that we have found evidence for around the world and consequently the number of Y Sedan drops to 6,131 and it is quite possible that this number may change again – upwards for the YT and down for the Y. This occurs because the majority of the production records for MG Y production from 1947 to about August 1951 were destroyed at the factory (I now own the production records from Aug 1951 – end of production). We, at the International MG Y Type Register, have embarked on a worldwide crusade and have copies of import documents from Australia and many other countries, together with painstaking examination of other records, and our own database of over 35% of all MG Y Type production contributed to by owners and clubs all over the world have been able to recreate the most comprehensive (but not exclusively complete) records of Ys made as well as surviving.”
As a result of the information provided by Paul, I have corrected the production numbers that I had included in the November 8, 2011 and the September 18, 2012 posts.
I asked Paul to provide any information that his group had about the number of MG Y sedans in North America. He kindly provided the following information that was current as of November 7, 2012:
|Cars we know something of in Canada||–||1||–||1|
|Cars we know the owner of in Canada||3||20||2||25|
|Cars we know something of in USA||4||7||–||11|
|Cars we know the owner of in USA||66||86||38||190|
|Total Canada and USA combined||73||114||40||227|
As you can see, there are not many MG Y sedans in North America and seeing one is a real treat.
On the advice of Paul, I have purchased a CD from the International MG Y Type Register that includes some books by John Lawson and C. A. N. May about the MG Y sedans. The books that are included on this CD are as follows:
Books by John G Lawson:
• MG Y-Types Saloons and Tourers
• Discovering the MG Y-Type
• Alternate Parts List for the MG Y Type
Book by C A N May:
• Wheelspin Abroad Part I
This CD just arrived yesterday and I look forward to reading the books on this CD and posting some information on the rallying history of these MG Y sedans. If anyone has information of the rallying history of these cars, then please contact me at the information provided in the “About” section of this website.
If you would like more information on MG Y sedans, then I would highly recommend going to www.mgytypes.org